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 Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:18 am Post subject: Taking on new doors,and or aquiring them |
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how do you guys do it
im looking into approaching a club that has its door firm coming into its question,well basically they are bully boys and need shifting
i undertand they are two ways of doing this but i want to come across in a professional and non bullying way,not that i would bully my way in,but im sure u understand what i mean
no rush in answers guys
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Thats a tricky one bud, especially when there is the risk of potential threats, and action from the current door company, there is none of that in highland or moray but in Aberdeen its a different story with potential issues when you take on new work, if you step on the wrong toes you could land yourself in a whole heap of worry.
You would have to have a very strong door team ready to move in if you did manage to persuade the manager or owner to change firms, I would put in a very tough team first then filter off the strongest doormen slowly replacing them weaker ones as the contract matures.
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we can give u a name of an enforcer from up here who would be happy to go down and help you out mate, he used to train in the dungeon,one of moray's hardest.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Glen wrote: | Thats a tricky one bud, especially when there is the risk of potential threats, and action from the current door company, there is none of that in highland or moray but in Aberdeen its a different story with potential issues when you take on new work, if you step on the wrong toes you could land yourself in a whole heap of worry.
You would have to have a very strong door team ready to move in if you did manage to persuade the manager or owner to change firms, I would put in a very tough team first then filter off the strongest doormen slowly replacing them weaker ones as the contract matures. |
just as i was thinking mate,the door in question hasnt any top boys that i would worry about to much,but just incase,u know what i mean,im sure they would folllow suit as one or two of them are good guys
im still working on things as u know,job hunting etc etc and looking into this
thanks for the advice
on another note on speaking to a few pub and one club that doesnt have doormen,they tell me that numbers are up and ppl are out more,if this is the case especialy with this reccession etc,it could be an opening to take on a few larger scale pubs,that have bands,party's etc
its a thought
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| moraymuscle wrote: | | we can give u a name of an enforcer from up here who would be happy to go down and help you out mate, he used to train in the dungeon,one of moray's hardest. |
ill keep that in mind mate,but im wanting to bring in a new security force,reasonable work force that clients want to see
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It is claimed in all the licensed trade press and the security industry papers I get thru the mailbox that the security trade as a whole is recession proof, and in the main I agree with that statement.
For our sector which is FDS people with disposable income will always go out drinking, but people who dont have so much money, they will always go out also as they need to have there escape or break from reality.
The other side of it is of course during recessions crime rates rise as people steal more, get more violent, etc etc etc.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| that was my indications also,and also crime,drugs and alcohol abuse will increase thus the need for more staff but also more violent as u say,no one wants to be battling drug fuelled idiots |
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| Glen wrote: | It is claimed in all the licensed trade press and the security industry papers I get thru the mailbox that the security trade as a whole is recession proof, and in the main I agree with that statement.
For our sector which is FDS people with disposable income will always go out drinking, but people who dont have so much money, they will always go out also as they need to have there escape or break from reality.
The other side of it is of course during recessions crime rates rise as people steal more, get more violent, etc etc etc. |
Great to see the board back up and running Glen.
We work mainly in the event and static sector and we're seeing the same thing, recession/downturn hit us last year as clients panicked about cutting costs, the past 3 months have seen a steady increase in thefts/break ins, which means the clients are more focused on Security issues again.
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| scoty wrote: | | moraymuscle wrote: | | we can give u a name of an enforcer from up here who would be happy to go down and help you out mate, he used to train in the dungeon,one of moray's hardest. |
ill keep that in mind mate,but im wanting to bring in a new security force,reasonable work force that clients want to see
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i think glens going to employ him soon hes just became unemployed.
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 Only in his dreams mate, the Eagle can
stay firmly off the doors I think 
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the eagle lol, wonder if who the "main man" in there is now, be worth a wee look in a few months when the mass is back on fully
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The 'main man' wasn't ever the Eagle. My god he thought he was though! Just a front for the real head doorman, sorry 'health and safety manager', who is unable to get a SIA licence 
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Edinburgh Based, welcome back buddy, and appologies, I missed your post there, Im glad to hear that your expanding again, obviously we only do a very small amount of static, many would say that was a mistake, and that specialising in door stewarding is a very difficult avenue to follow,.
Well, id also agree with that!! it is a very specialist area, and very few companies manage to survive on DS alone, finger crossed for us, so far so good, 5 years + now.
Keep posting bud.
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